**Congratulations to contest winner Salar Melli, of Edmonton, Canada. In addition to being a good guesser, Melli is an active entrepreneur. He’s created an online tea store and is working on a new pizza brand. Melli owns a 2000 Mercedes-Benz SLK and a 1998 Suzuki Jimny; he hopes to convert a classic to an EV some day. “Not a classic, though!” he adds.**
If you’ve been following the auction scene of late, then you’re aware things are kind of nuts right now. Thanks to the continued growth of online selling platforms, classic cars are being bid on at an unprecedented pace. Insider has lots of thoughts about this phenomenon—you can find some here and here—but perhaps the most important one is that it’s fun. Who doesn’t like seeing amazing classics trotted out day in and day out, and who doesn’t like guessing just how much they’ll go for?
In the spirit of fun, we’re introducing a new contest. We’re calling it, The Bid is Right. The premise is simple and should be familiar to anyone who has watched daytime TV in the last few decades: The person who guesses closest to the final bid—without going over—wins.
Oh, and did we mention we’re giving out $500 to the winner? Yes, we take fun pretty seriously.
With no further ado, we present this week’s contest. Submit your guess in the comments section below no later than December 8, at 2 pm EST (24 hours before the auction officially closes—that’s right, no sniping!).
The Car: 2003 Z8 Alpina, for sale on Bring a Trailer
Hagerty Price Guide Value Condition #1: $290,000 Condition #2: $219,000 Condition #3: $168,000 Condition #4 $132,000
Our Take: Before there was wireless Apple CarPlay, we had our favorite CDs in the glove box. Before we had configurable AWD systems, we held our breath in hope the rear tires wouldn’t break loose. Before we had today’s, um, interesting looking BMW M4, we had the BMW Z8 Alpina, a perfect cocktail of Henrik Fisker design and Alpina performance wizardry. Nostalgia is funny like that. What was, in its time, a nod to the 1956–60 BMW 507 is now itself endearingly retro.
Powered by a naturally aspirated V-8, the Z8 is more of a high-speed, open-top grand tourer than a sport roadster. That’s particularly true in Alpina form, which traded some top-end power for low-end torque and came only with an automatic transmission. However, don’t mistake it for being some sort of country club cruiser. With 375 hp it shot to 60 in under 5 seconds—back when that really meant something.
Car collectors still seem to be figuring out whether the Z8 is an interesting old car or a bona fide classic. We have seen values of condition #1 vehicles reach up to $274,000 back in 2016, but they slipped afterward and, on average, have not surpassed their MSRP (when accounting for inflation). That’s particularly true for the Alpina models, which are exceptionally rare but also exceptionally expensive, with a sticker of $137,595 back in 2003.
But what was true a year or even a few months ago might not be true in today's red-hot collector car market. The 12-month moving average price for base Z8s have recently crept into appreciation territory, and, in October, a low-mileage Z8 Alpina eclipsed the $400k mark on Bring a Trailer.
The Z8 Alpina for sale now has more mileage—about 17k versus just 5k—but in today's wild market, there's no telling if that will make a difference. What do you think this Z8 will go for? Put your guess in the comments, below. More ground rules:
- The commenter who guesses closest to the hammer price—without going over—wins. (Hammer price excludes auction house fees).
- One guess per commenter.
- If two people guess the same amount (within a dollar) the earlier guess wins.
- Commenters must provide first and last name in addition to email address.
- We will close the guessing on Wednesday, December 8 at 2 pm.
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$418,495
$386500
$345,999
$ 405,000
$419,275.00
About $300,000
$230,000
$266,000
My guess is $345,000.00
355,000.00
$305,750.00
my guess for the 2003 Z8 Alpina is $309,999.00
$423,000 US
my guess is that it sells for $630,000.
$675.00 (Six Hundred and Seventy Five dollars)
I would take a Porsche 928 any day.
$301,000
$392 000.00
$319,000.00 for the Z8
$245
$475, 000
$333,000.00
$275,001.
$217,000 is my guess
$410,220.00
$324751.00
$364750
I believe prices will continue to climb. My guess is $337K.
$328,000
233,400
$327500
298,000
$247,500
395,000.
$247500.
$225,000
Correction:
Clarification from earlier price should of read $675,000.00 (Six Hundred Seventy Five Thousand Dollars) not $675.00
$318,000.00
$250,000
$330,000
$324,888.95
$366,666
386,245.00
$386,245.00
$211,000
$289000 is my guesstimate
$295K
$387.00
$336,000
$415,500.
398,000.00
$178,400
$390,500
$237,000
$301,000
$411,111
$278,000
$363,000.00
$379,900
417,000
$317,000
$199,000
295457
$322,500
My guess is $349,999.99
More than I’ve got
$550,000.00
$550,000.
$294,000
291, 125
$393,375.00
My best guess – it will fetch 208,500 USD
$327,327
$348,327
$314,099
$326,500 USD
$309,000
$206,682
$375,500
$414,000
430,000
345,000.00
$279,000
$182,000
$391,000
$297,679
$297,650
$382,000
$267,000. Nice BMW
$199,750.-
$199,750.00
$378,750
$325,524.00
256,000
My guess is $413,987. Beautiful Car!!
My guess is 416,486.28
$287,900
$177,900
276,500
$ 376,000
450,000!
268,500
Awesome article, nice work! $215,766.75
$320,000
$474,000
$401,789
343,000
248 571
$330,195.
299,999.00
$355,001
My guess is: $463
$233,000
$463
$271,000
$231,500
238,500
$452,000
$282,000
305500
$329,900
$501,000
$420,420.00
317000
$278,500
$189,990
$395,000
$268,850
$421,000
$540,000
$198,000
$325,450
$279,000
$314,398
$378,501
$398,000
$335,001
405,099
$288000
318,000
I think it will sell for $424,500
$424,500.
My guess $268,995
$267,500
$415,000.
$276000
276000
$267,500
365,555.00
$318,000
365,000
348,000.01
173400
$289,990
$307,000
148.999
$304,750
$189,000.00
BMW Z8. $320,500.
$454,999.00
$287,500
$347,000.00
400k
$276,000
$437,500,000
$327,447
$317,000
$210000
322,200
442,500 USD
$343780
$287,000
$ 256000
I believe it cost to around $225,00
297.000
$357,000
280k
297,000
$289.000 will be the final bid for z4
$369k
367482
307000
260000
376,500
525500$
$338,500
$215,750
My guess is $325,000
My guess is $310,000
$458,000
$272,000
I’m thinking $310,000
Plus the $500 I win for guessing right
370,000$
$180,567.69
321,000 at least!
$1,288,000
My guess $328,000
My guess $327,500
$388,952
$436,655.00
$442,599
$327,000.00
$414,000
$344,000
$371,000
The car will sell at 159,000$
$238,736
$350,000
$485,000
375,000
The exact price will be below $420,600.00
(im smort as hek ya kno)
$341,510
165k
My guess is 309000
275,500k
236565
USD
Final price $286,000
I think it will be around $430,250
$408,000
$312,001
$241,400
$435,400
$375,476
$306,500
$326,000
345.,000
$256,000
$407,001.00
$404.500
More than the value of my Colorado home.
$236,500
$314,521
$335,000
$482,000
276,000
216,000
$345,678
$232,500
$355,000
$485,000
$320,000
$327,065
$ 256,750.00
$310,000
$415,325
$415325
$407,600.00
USD248,500
$296,500
$305000
$402,500
$415,500 USD
$307,500.00
Z8 dial bid slightly more than $$293,498.
FINAL , not dial!
$298,576
$449,000
255000
$376,750
$332,000
$479,000
$330,000
$295,00
$390,000
$300,001.00
385,000.
$364,449
367,500 USD
425,000
225,000 USD
$409,995
I bet the hammer falls right on the desk in front of the auctioneer!
$274,775 Z8 Alpina
$317,500
$420,000
$318,999
$319,999
$477,001
379,900
$275,000
369,000
$302.00
$302.00
327,000
You mean ado, not “adieu”. As in Much Ado About Nothing. Or maybe it’s a vain attempt at an obscure pun, as in to bid adieu.
I’m afraid we’re not that clever. Thanks for the catch.
398,000
$371,002
$410,000.00.
284k
$392,000
$506,000
465,000
$392,500
285000
I’m guessing $385,000
$311,482USD
My guess is $375,900…
My guess is $399,900
My guess is $375,000
$256,000
301,001
$317,000
385,000
Changing to 385,001 due to another 385,000 above that I had not previously seen. Feel free to delete my comment of 385,000 exact.
Btw, Insider staff, as a long time reader of Car and Driver, Road&Track, Motorweek, and as a former newspaper journalist and press fleet auto reviewer, you all are making the digital transition for readers far more successfully than any of the car Mags. I bet if you did an auction bet like this weekly—even just for Hagerty swag rather than cash—you’d still get mad reader engagement. Most of us don’t need the money, but really enjoy the community and engagement.
412,000
$338,500
$424,000.00
$309999
$319989
$450,001
$335,001 for the Alpina Z8
$ 213,000 Winner…….
$298,500
312,456.00
$385,000.00
345.500
$340,000 Hammer Price
276,000
$342,555
$405700
$406100
287,000
317,000 is my guess
$365,000
$432,100.00
367,673
$421,777
$285,000
$288,888
$386,600
$441,010
$378,000
$369258.00
I’m guessing $378,200
$329,000
$376,502
$286,000
387250
$400,008
241050$
$389,500
$354,000
342000
$398,550
276428
$276428
I feel the car is worth $276,428
$247,501
$480.000
$504,000
402,000
Hammer on the Z8 is $326,500
$421,125
$377,500