For over two years, we’ve discussed at length the huge gains in the collector car market. While most vehicles continue to increase in value or at least hold steady, a handful have taken a step back. The data from our latest Hagerty Price Guide update shows that despite the incredible demand for collector cars, these models are among a small group that sold or were offered at a price lower than the previous quarter.
Initial analysis shows that reductions in value have been comparatively low (most in single-digit percentages), isolated, and few are associated with headline-grabbing cars. The fact that almost nothing noteworthy has lost value is noteworthy in itself. Just the same, we took some time to explore some of the more remarkable value losses and discuss what implications (if any) they have on the market.
1970 Plymouth Superbird 440/390hp -16%
Superbirds could well be the most vexing vehicles we’ve observed since the beginning of the year. They had an incredible showing at the Kissimmee and Scottsdale sales in January, but by May, those prices looked like overexcited buying. Then, in the past two weeks, a strong showing at Barrett-Jackson Las Vegas posted a $1.65 million sale for a Hemi-equipped car, the most paid for a Superbird that hasn’t been piloted by NASCAR legend Richard Petty.
While a single huge sale does not set a new market, it does exemplify the market’s current volatility. And although 440 Six Barrel cars are not quite the same league as Hemi-powered ‘birds, their trajectory is a trend worth monitoring closely. It is hard to ignore the weak showing 440 cars experienced at Mecum’s mega Indianapolis sale, where Six Barrel cars lost the most ground. Superbirds frequently headline major auctions and come up for sale often enough that if a turnaround occurs, it will become apparent quickly.
1970-1977 Alfa Romeo Montreal -8%
The Montreal is a drop-dead gorgeous car, and the sound of its 2.6L V-8 engine is an Italian opera of engineering. As such, I’m sure those who have lusted after a Montreal but found them too expensive are rejoicing at the prospect that their dream car may be more attainable. That said, eight percent is not much of a drop, even for a car that commands the prices the Montreal does.
The market for these cars is never an easy one to pin: exceptional cars do exist, but it is not a car you can simply buy sight unseen. As with any Italian car, rust can be an issue, and repairs can be quite intensive and expensive to do correctly. For that fact, cars that cannot be inspected in person (and with the increase in online auction popularity, those numbers are on the rise) may be a leap of faith for some buyers. This could be one of many reasons behind the weak showings we’ve seen for Montreals lately. With the Pebble Beach auctions coming up soon, a few exceptional examples could very well turn the losses around— or they could confirm them.
2004-2009 Ferrari F430 Spider -6%
The F430 has benefitted greatly from the hot collector car market over the past 6 months. In fact, most of the action in the Ferrari market, with the exception of the Dino, has been with modern models. Heck, even the FF has seen steady increases. F430s have been leading that charge, but it appears that over the last quarter they have taken a bit of a reprieve.
While the six percent loss doesn’t wipe out the double-digit gains F430 Spiders have made over the last several months, it does show that things got a little too hot. With sales down and listing prices a bit softer than before, it’s likely more a result of owners looking to cash in and too many cars hitting the market at the same time than it is an indication that they have shifted out of favor. Remember, for perspective, we are discussing a six percent loss for an article about “significant” value losses.
1968-1976 BMW 2002 -5%
It wasn’t so long ago that BMW 2002s were cheap and cheerful ways to get into the hobby. Nowadays, a standard, show-ready 2002 will set you back at least $40,000, and far more for one that is restored to perfection (of course, 2002tiis and Turbos have maintained a premium).
While the 2002’s value increases haven’t been as abrupt as many collector vehicles, they have been on a steady upward march. As of the last few months, however, momentum appears to have slowed. Five percent isn’t likely to put pandemic-era 2002 buyers upside-down on their purchase, but this slight price correction could be evidence that the 2002 market has reached a point of equilibrium.
1970-1972 Chevrolet Monte Carlo -5%
G-Body GM products like the Grand Prix and Monte Carlo have enjoyed renewed interest the past two years. These cars fit in an odd place in the market: built and marketed as personal luxury cars, they also offered a variety of performance options that enabled them to easily keep pace with a comparable Chevelle or GTO. With that in mind, these cars enjoy the admiration of those who appreciate something a little less mainstream or perhaps crave muscle car performance at a discount.
So why haven’t Monte Carlos experienced the same uninhibited growth as the rest of the muscle car market? Part of it surely has to do with the fact that Chevelles continue to cast a long shadow in terms of popularity, even though the Monte shares so much with it structurally and mechanically. Recently, sales and listings for first generation Monte Carlos have been soft, causing a small reduction in price guide values. Not to worry, five percent even on the best-spec Monte Carlo equates to no more than a couple thousand dollars, so we don’t see a need to panic.
You are completely wrong regarding the First Generation Monte) Monte Carlo (70-72). No 5% reduction over the last year and a half to two years. What our club, First Generation Monte Carlo Club, has seen is prices and values almost double. You need to ask whoever researched this for you where they pulled the figures you have placed in this article.
Hi Rob, Eddy Eckart, Senior Editor here. That’s -5% over the last quarter, not 1.5 to 2 years. Without referencing data from our team, your suggestion that they are way up over the last couple of years makes sense. Stay tuned for a “how we value cars” update in the near future to see how our data analysts reach the values they do.
Eddy, Reading comments on this story has stirred up a lot of controversy. I too looked at it with concern. I have been an appraiser for more than three decades and very involved in the car hobby for more than six decades. (Yes, 6 decades) Cars that have had my hands on valuation are in several countries world wide. I have NEVER considered myself an expert. But I have watched values for many categories of collector cars for a very long time. I do see market numbers that are curious at best. True, the market moves around, but I would rather look at valuation trends over a longer period, than by quarterly reports. I have been a contributor to one of the well known publications that gathers reports from members and even the reports given to them seemed to me, a bit too close together to decide just what is going on in the market.
Hi Rod, I agree that there’s real value in a broader look. Part of the reason we made the switch to quarterly reporting was because we’ve seen such dramatic movement over the course of the last couple of years. Given that our data is turned into a valuation tool that our members can use, it’s important for us to try to be as current as possible. That having been said, your point the bigger picture is always critical: it’s impossible to tell when you’re zoomed in if that 5% drop is a hiccup or the beginning of a cooling off.
We do our best to provide pieces of varying scope. Usually, the broader ones are more about attributes of the market writ large than specific models. Typically, when the Prices Guide is updated, we like to highlight some interesting changes from one period (quarter) to the next.
I do appreciate the constructive criticism you’ve offered— we’re always trying to improve and provide the best perspective we can.
With all due respect to those who love Monte Carlo’s I don’t understand how the Monte Carlo ever obtained the status that’s being implied. There is just nothing particularly special about them. They were not a special with low production numbers, no particular track history and weren’t advertised as a monster eating dual quad hurst shifting beast when new. It’s kinda sad this hobby has been turned into an investment scheme. Old cars in general have never been a profitable venture and I fear that people expecting to make money over the long haul on cars that were commonplace when new will be sorely disappointed and might not be in financial positions that easily absorb the losses. The cars are for fun. If someone wants to make money on money they cannot afford to loose then buy dividend paying Blue Chip stocks, put it out of mind and let it grow.
I’m with you Pete. I didn’t even realize Monte Carlo’s were popular.